Lynnhaven & Long Creek Waterways

Proposal to Impact Surrounding Neighborhoods & Everyone

Who Enjoys the Lynnhaven Waterways

 

"The purpose of government is to enable the people of a nation to live in safety and happiness. Government exists for the interests of the governed, not for the governors."
Thomas Jefferson

Is our City Government above the Law?


 

Wow!!! OVER 9815 "Hits" on the Website!


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MARCH 31 2015

KEEP YOUR EYES WIDE OPEN!

We're hearing that the Marina Shores rezoning may still be in the works for around 300 units - not sure if it's apartments or condos  We heard the rezoning request may be happening as soon as May. There has been NO presentation of plans at any civic league or community organization meetings for the citizens of these neighborhoods to see and understand the possible affects this rezoning could mean to them and our community.

Link to the promises made to the community for the original rezoing in 1987

 

  And just a few short years ago a big permanent Dredge Spoils Transfer Facility was being proposed in our neighborhoods... in an area that was supposed to be preserved as a nature conservancy...and the citizens were the last to know.   Will this open up a pathway to Dredge Spoils Transfer Site again?

 

 

NOVEMBER 9, 2014

PATHWAY TO AN INDUSTRIAL DREDGE SPOILS TRANSFER SITE

 

1. Supposedly, Marina Shores wants to build a new commercial building (replacing their current buildings) and parking garage on their property  - well - I'm assuming,

they can build according to what the current zoning allows

 

2. Oh my - sound the alarm - a commercial building to replace commercial buildings

3. A "concerned neighbor" sounds the alarm with a bright solution -calls a meeting that includes the marina owner and all the Civic League Presidents & others.....

  Wouldn't it be better to allow them to rezone - and build apartments - "Residential?"

.....0h say 250 to 300 apartments......

4.  Oh and by the way - they mentioned more boat slips --- along the wetlands - y'know  along the area that was already negotiated to be a protected area when Marina Shores negotiated their current zoning years ago and traded the property with the City of Virginia Beach - and negotiated with the civic leagues

 

Oh - we've also received an email concerning the idea of a "TRADE" in the deal if her apartments are supported by the community

for 6 Acres - to change from R7.5 to P1...... Residential to Preservation zoning ---- this has been talked about and scrutizined during the dredge site issue --- it was determined that P1 actually allowed more development - including a MARINA without a conditional use permit and that the current R7.5 residential zoning allowed more protection for the communities - which was also noted by our Councilman Jim Wood during all of these discusions

 

WHY WHY WHY IS THE P-1 ZONING

ON THE TABLE NOW?

 

 

5. Oh and to get to these boat slips - I wonder if they need to build a nice, stable bulkhead like they proposed before - oh yes.....maybe sooooo stable and so big that

maybe it will support the operations of a

Municipal Dredge Spoils Transfer Facility -

 

Voila!

So compatiable and safe in a recreational waterway (click to enlarge)

Barge overturns in the middle of the channel - spilling sludge and

nearly causing serious injury to the operator

 

 

 

AUGUST 28 2014

NEW FLAGS  ON LONG CREEK AT MAPLE ST. AND ALL THE WAY TO 

CAPE HENRY SHORES - LOTS OF HITS ON THE WEBSITE - HMMMMMM -

And the City Boys say " We know nothing!"  - Really....

 

GET 'R DONE

BEFORE THE PUBLIC KNOWS  --- FAST

September 12, 2013

Councilman Jones and Councilman Wood are Resurrecting SB 926 - the Bill that was pulled by Senator McWaters in January 2013...

 

Last year at this time, these Councilman sponsored the same bill with no public knowledge that was carried by Senator McWaters to the General Assembly in January 2013. There was no opposition to the bill and no comments. Fortunately, Senator McWaters informed the public about the bill and with the combined efforts of neighborhood and environmental organizations as well as concerned citizens - over 150 emails were received by Senator McWaters in a few short hours and the bill was pulled.

 

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE OFFICIAL VOTES FROM JANUARY

 

 

Part of the new bill Item 10 mentioned in the proposal

(basically same as the old just reworded):

 

Line 98: 10. Governmental activity in wetlands owned or leased or within an easement held by the Commonwealth or a subdivision thereof or in wetlands subject to a local government approved neighborhood navigation dredging project within a special services district adopted by the local governing body in accordance with 15.2-2400, et seq., of the Code of Virginia (“SSD Neighborhood Dredging Project”). Notwithstanding any provision in this chapter to the contrary, any such special service district neighborhood dredging project SSD Neighborhood Dredging Project shall be subject to the jurisdiction of the Commission rather than the local wetlands board, if any. In exercising its jurisdiction over neighborhood dredging projects, the Commission shall process permit applications in accordance with the provisions of the this chapter and the applicable wetlands zoning ordinance, if any, and shall provide an opportunity for public comment.

 

This bill gives the cities throughout the STATE endless power to do anything they want in wetlands without local oversight - simply create or use an existing easement.  Our City officials never fail to give speaches about what good stewards they are of the wetlands and our valuable waterways on one hand and then on the other - they are creating bills to plow through the wetlands -

 

Councilman Jim Wood and Councilman Louis Jones are working with City Staff to create specials exemptions for "some of the people" but not "all of the people." Creating a path that allows the City of  Virginia Beach & other cities to do anything they want in wetlands for ALL City projects including the Neighborhood Dredge Program as long as they have an "EASEMENT" - yep, that means a Dredge Spoils Transfer Site could be coming to your neighborhood soon!- Yes, that's right - they REALLY DID need wetlands approval for the Maple St. Dredge site - but they told us they only needed VMRC approval - - now it'll be full steam ahead -

 

But, wait, what about that appeal by the City  to the Board of Zoning Appeals Ruling for the zoning ruling?  They can't call it a public use and build anything they want on the land if there's only an "EASEMENT."  City Zoning Codes say that a "Public Use" is on property "owned or leased" - that's ONE of the  missing links at Maple St. (the other is the STATE LAW that requires it to be on the City's Comprehensive Plan that is being ignored by the City's legal department)  If this bill was passed, the City's next task would be to change the current zoning code to include "EASEMENT." Voila' - a new city project at Maple St. will be in the works - no voice at the local level. They'll no longer have to deal with concerned citizen groups - no individuals.

 

Oh, but there's the City Council Resolution taking Maple St. off consideration for the SSD program - don't worry - it'll be built as some other City Project not associated with the SSD program - "beefed up" as they've said in the past to hold trucks and dredge transfer equipment - next up - they'll create a need and Council will reverse the Resolution and....there you have it - a  Sludge Transfer Site at Maple St. - subject to year round use - at the whim of the City and City/private projects. The people benefiting from their own projects will be enduring a disruption for a short time period every 7-10 years or so - for their own benefit - the communities and waterways surrounding the sludge site and truck route will be subject to the disruption continuously. Their zoning protections when they purchased their properties - "poof" - gone up in smoke -

 

There's also another part of the bill that exempts the people aligned with the City in the SSD program  from the "mud tax" - that other individuals will still be required to pay if they are not a part of the City's SSD program and want to dredge their own channels. You can't blame those people for wanting to save money - the City already promised them a certain cost - why would they want to pay more? However, individuals not onboard with the City will still be required to go through the local wetlands board, jump through all the hoops, abide by current laws and codes and pay any applicable taxes -- but, for those people signed up with the City - hundreds will be exempt - wetlands oversight on these massive projects plowing through wetlands and mudflats (many never have been deepwater canals - not already bulkheaded) is removed from the local level -  they put their properties and taxes fully in the hands of the City government.... special deals for certain people - but not for all.  The unintended consequences to these areas and maintenance expense to the individuals is completely unknown - but that's another story....

 

It just all takes time and our City government has all the time in the world and our tax money to work with for their special projects - benefiting a few and harming many. They have the system down. 

 

What can you do?

CLICK HERE TO EMAIL COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY

(By the Way if you get a message back from a councilman who is named as sponsoring this bill saying that he doesn't know about it - Senators, Delegates, other Councilmen, Environmental groups and Civic Organizations know about it ....and the City has asked Senators and Delegates to carry the bill ---

sounds like a replay from the Maple St. Dredge Site days --

"Oh, don't worry - it'll be fine.....not coming for years.....isn't even a need........ oh, that misinformation.......but let's spend $$400,000 or trade for a new beefed up bulkhead and sludge site --- just in case......sheesh!"

 

WRITE ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AT ONE TIME AND ASK THAT YOUR LETTER BE INCLUDED WITH THE

COUNCIL'S LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE and ATTACHED TO THIS BILL

CLICK HERE TO SEND LETTER TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THE SAME TIME

 

It is believed that the City has asked Senator Wagner to carry the bill this time - it's not too early to start writing to him:

 

The Honorable Frank Wagner  (State Senator)                                                        

Email*: district07@senate.virginia.gov
District Office      
P.O. Box 68008
Virginia Beach, VA 23471
Phone: (757) 671-2250
Fax: (757) 244-7866

 

These are the names of the members who voted to strike the bill in January:

Hanger, Watkins, Puckett, Ruff, McEachin, Petersen, Northam, Marsden, Black, Miller
You can get a link to all of the committee members at:
CLICK HERE FOR ALL MEMBERS CONTACTS

 

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August 9, 2013

Oh yes, something's brewing!

....is there some wheel'n and deal'n with the City boys  for projects on Long Creek along the marsh - y'know the promised protected area and the area that the Beaches & Waterways Commission said was not an appropriate place for a Sludge site - & ruled to be against zoning by the City's own Board of Zoning members ..........that the 1000's of people in the neighborhoods don't know about? Hmmmmmmm?

 Quick - Quick - before the "people" know.....

y'know the voters - those most affected.

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 YES!

SB926 STRICKEN FROM THE DOCKET 1/31/13

CLICK TO SEE OFFICIAL VOTES

AFTER 5PM YESTERDAY, WE HEARD THAT OVER 150 EMAILS WERE SENT TO SENATOR MCWATERS

 

Why would our Lynnhaven District Councilman Jim Wood and Bayside Council Louis Jones sponsor a bill that takes away the people's right to protect their property - their voice to be heard at the local level - and gives some "special favors" and less expense for dredging while others are still subject to the same laws and fees if they're not "onboard" with the City's program?

If this bill had passed - the City would have endless power over over wetlands and people's property.

And the Maple St. dredge site? - Oh yes, just one more nail in the coffin. Looks like the City was NOT EXEMPT from a local wetlands hearing like Deputy City Manager and Phil Roehrs told us and submitted the permit.

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JANUARY 28TH - SNEAKY CITY BOYS ARE AT IT AGAIN 

TAKE ACTION NOW - CHESAPEAKE BAY FOUNDATION ACTION ALERT - STOP SB926

Click Here

What is it about those guys at the City? It is our understanding that  Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen is leading the way  - asking Senator McWaters to carry a bill giving the City "carte blanc" to do whatever they want in the wetlands even if it's privately owned. Yep - under the guise of a government activity - they want to take your voice away - y'know, it makes things easier that way.

Click here for summary of SB926

Click here for full wording of Bill SB926 pertaining to wetland

WHAT CAN YOU DO? IT'S IN THE

Senate Agriculture, Conservation and Natural Resources Committee

ASK THEM WHY THIS BILL IS BEING PROPOSED?

DOES THIS TAKE AWAY AN AVENUE FOR THE

PRIVATE CITIZENS TO HEARD?

 

"Emmet Hanger" district24@senate.virginia.gov

"Dick Black" <district13@senate.virginia.gov>,

"Harry Blevins" <district14@senate.virginia.gov>,

"Adam Ebbin" <district30@senate.virginia.gov>,

"Dave Marsden" <district37@senate.virginia.gov>,

"Joe May" <DelJMay@house.virginia.gov>,

"Don McEachin" <district09@senate.virginia.gov>,

"John Miller" <district01@senate.virginia.gov>,

"Ralph Northam" <district06@senate.virginia.gov>,

"Mark Obenshain" <district26@senate.virginia.gov>,

"Ken Plum" <DelKPlum@house.virginia.gov>,

"Phil Puckett" <district38@senate.virginia.gov>,

"Bob Purkey" <DelBPurkey@house.virginia.gov>,

"Bill Stanley" <district19@senate.virginia.gov>

"John Watkins" <district10@senate.virginia.gov>

 

BILLS CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED BY THIS COMMITTEE:   CLICK

 

 

  1. The City's Board of Zoning Appeals ruled that a Dredge Spoils Transfer facility was an inappropriate use on the Maple St. location in R7.5 zoning.   NOTE COUNCILMAN JIM WOOD(click) said the City appealed the BZA ruling because of possible unintended negative impacts to the decades-long Army Corps dredging projects, well VMRC has issued a permit for the Long Creek maintenance dredging & they have completed a project.   2. The Beaches & Waterways Commission said that a Dredge Spoils Transfer facility was not an appropriate use in this location and recommended an alternative-city-owned site zoned B-2.      3. City Council signed a Resolution that eliminated the SSD program from using the Maple St. site as a dredge spoils transfer site.

    4. Over 1500 people signed a petition that said No dredge spoils transfer site



Sneaky Public Works! 

Who's Looking out for our Area?

Sheesh! Public Works is worried about Safety at the intersection at Great Neck Rd. at Long Creek Cove - but didn't have a problem adding thousands of tandem trucks for a mechanical dredge spoils transfer site that would benefit other neighborhoods that wouldn't have to bother with the safety and the mess!

Not worried about developing an industrial operation in the middle of a residential community either. click pic to enlarage

Do we look like we were born with our heads in the sand?

The City is putting in stoplights and widening the turn lanes on 

Great Neck Rd. at Long Creek Cove. - Why be concerned?  - Well, why now? Who asked for it? Did they come to the Civic leagues? Nooooooo -- Just some extra money hanging around the City? Right!  The City Boys will just put this on their list - say the infrastructure is there and disregard the expense of the light. - It's how they operate - SNEAKS! - silly boys - do they really think people don't talk - people don't know how they scheme and what they want the end result to be?   CORRUPT!

oh - an email is going around for damage control - saying it's the Fed's money - .....uh, um...uh - and where does the Fed get their money from?  YOU AND ME! So, this is top priority?

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A MECHANICAL DREDGE SPOILS TRANSFER SITE

 AT MAPLE ST - IN THE MIDDLE

OF A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY?  REALLY?

Hear Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen - former ARMY Corps of Engineers say he hopes kids in a canoe don't get run over - CLICK

Little control of the barges per Deputy Dave Click here for audio



CLICK TO ENLARGE PICS 



THIS ALL STARTED WITH OUR CITY GOVERNMENT CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME AT THE DETRIMENT TO MANY - CREATING WINNERS AND LOSERS WITH TAXPAYER MONEY!
Ignori
ng zoning laws that protected the people!

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RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS
(Section 500 of the City Zoning Ordinance, City Code, Appendix A)
The purpose of the Residential Districts is to provide areas for residential housing types at a variety of densities, provide for harmonious neighborhoods located so as to create compatibility and to provide for certain other necessary and related uses within residential communities but limited as to maintain neighborhood compatibility.

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SHORE DRIVE CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT (SD)
(Section 1700 of the City Zoning Ordinance, City Code, Appendix A)
The Shore Drive Corridor is not only one of the primary routes of access to the city's oceanfront resort area, but is also the location of First Landing/Seashore State Park, the site of the historic first landing of the Jamestown colonists in 1607, Fort Story, beaches on the Chesapeake Bay, and many stable and attractive residential communities. As such, its appearance is vital to the city. The purpose of the Shore Drive Corridor District is to enhance the appearance of the area encompassed by the District and to preserve its vitality as an important gateway to the city.

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Barges and Boats and Boarders, oh my!

There are better areas and uses for the spoils

- oh the political games this City plays.

And the Public Works boys want this to be a permanent mechanical dredge spoils transfer facility!

Click to see the "deal" Wavy tv10 "quid pro quo Phil"

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"I thought I was gone"

....yelled the man going down with the tug....

(for the barge story and pics - scroll down to Aug. 2nd)

Click right corner of pic to see man escaping when the tug was turning over

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Why was the site being used in the middle of the summer?

Hear Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen - former ARMY Corps of Engineers say he hopes kids in a canoe don't get run over - CLICK

Little control of the barges per Deputy Dave Click here for audio

PUBLIC WORKS FAILED TO SUBMIT THE LONG CREEK MAINTENANCE DREDGING APPLICATION - that was EXPIRED FOR OVER 2 YEARS

VMRC approved a new permit for mechanical dredging that increased from one small shoaling job to up to 25,000 cubic yards of mechanical transfer of dredged spoils per year - Uh? With NO RESTRICTIONS!

- No Need said Public Works - No Need said VMRC - Public Safety in the middle of summer - no time restriction - amount - nor # of days

Now why is a crew dredging up some shoaling in the middle of summer on busy Long Creek anyway? The permit had expired OVER two years ago. Why wasn't Public Works worrying about the main channel's navigation and public safety? They were busy with their own deal: Click to see the "deal" Wavy tv10 "quid pro quo Phil"

(by the way - Phil was filmed hiding in the bushes, then skedaddling out of the site when WAVY 10 showed up...really, Phil?....the City's Rep?....??????)

Why didn't Public Works tell Council the truth? (click) the Permit was EXPIRED!!!.

Public Works failed to submit a new application - the old one was not renewable - because they were working on a much bigger deal - a permanent dredge spoils transfer facility on Long Creek.

This accident occured while the barge was making the turn around the "Illegal Intrusion" into the main channel that was allowed to stay after a $10,000 fine was paid - but the safety issue remains.

This is one more reason why directing barges in this location is a bad idea. This picture shows the barges moored in a "no mooring" area next to this intrusion. (click pic on right bottom corner to see paddle boarders & mooring area) During the recovery, with paddleboarders, boats and kayaks going by - with no warning - no police - no coast guards, the two barges collided into each other and then against the dock when the rope/chain snapped as they tried to pull up the containment vessel filled with muck from under the water in the middle of the channel. The vessel was so close to to the top of the water that a worker was only waste high when standing on it. No coast guards, no police - area not roped off.

Click to see article about the fine for allowing the illegal intrustion next to the pier and bulkhead into the channel - VMRC VIOLATION OF PERMIT

 

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AUGUST 4TH

MAPLE ST. INDUSTRIAL SITE

All this for a "small" 3 day shoaling job in the middle of summer

NO RESTRICTIONS - NO PROTECTION FOR THE COMMUNITY

While machinery was colliding during the clean up of the spill and recovery of the sunken vessel in the middle of the channel - small boats with families and teens, paddle boaders, and kayaks were just a few feet away going by in the channel.

Click to Enlarge picture

 

Shore Drive Corridor Overlay District - ....as such, its appearance is vital to the City. The purpose of the Shore Drive Corridor Overlay District is to enhance the appearnce of the area encompassed by the District and to preserve its vitality as an important gateway to the City.

 

You can only imagine what this site would look like as a full blown permanent industrial dredge spoils transfer facility that our City Boys have been pursuing and our Councilman told us not to worry about.......

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By the Way - the accident happened when the barge was being pushed around the illegal dock intrusion in to the main channel - an intrusion that was allowed to stay after a fine was paid.

 

August 3rd

Sludge Spill and Container Sinking

Click for Video from WAVY TV 10

This could have been worse - it should be taken as a warning

PUBLIC WORKS FAILED TO GET PERMIT - MISLED COUNCIL -

SHOALING SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEANED UP A YEAR AGO -

PUBLIC SAFETY ON BACK BURNER - Who's Responsible?

(click to enlarge pictures)

Now, that the sludge has settled and our concerns confirmed, the City of Va Beach should be making solid plans to get the mechanical sludge operation outta here - this type of activity should not be handled in a such a tight, narrow, residential area with strong recreational activity - in the middle of summer - without any restrictions on the time of day or number of days.

We begged VMRC and the City for Restrictions and some Controls. Our Concerns were ignored. Business as usual they said - but it's not. Understandably, the shoaling in the channel needs to be dredged. WHY DID THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS BOYS ALLOW THE PERMIT TO BE EXPIRED AND TELL COUNCIL MISTRUTHS THAT IT WAS STILL ACTIVE?

 

So, now, the community suffers and is subjected to an industrial operation - with a channel filled with paddle boarders, boaters, teenagers, kayaks and canoes. - This small shoaling area should have been cleaned up a year ago - but the failure of Public Works allowed the permit to expire.


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* Engineers told Beaches and Waters No Concern over Barges - no reports or studies - just their opinion & B & W repeated it - CLICK TO HEAR

* Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen - former ARMY Corps of Engineers - will kids in a canoe get run over? - CLICK TO HEAR

* Bay Island Citizen sharing Police Concern over Traffic in Long Creek & Safety issues - CLICK TO HEAR

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The City - or the people of Va Beach just purchased a $13.5 million piece of land that can be utilized for an inwater disposal site and the rehabilitation of wetlands. A role model for those who want to protect our waters. Incorporated into the learning center. A living, breathing rehabilitation area where spoils could be reused to benefit the waterway and take the risk of harm away from the recreational communities. Where is our City leadership on this issue? It's been staring at them in the face and they continue to make policies that endanger the people and contradict their own zoning laws. The Beaches & Waterways Commission said the reuse of spoils was do-able - but they'd think about it for a later day....... Do these pictures look like the beautification program of the Shore Drive Overlay Corridor District is being honored?

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With little control of the barges - Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen told us that he hoped kids in a canoe didn't get hurt. Click here for audio

August 2nd

"I thought I was gone"

exclaimed the worker that scrambled away as the barge with the hopper barge on top, filled with muck, dumped into the middle of the Long Creek channel, creating a navigational hazard in the middle of our community. The worker was replaying his experience when he thought that the pusher boat he was on nearly

went under with the barges -

as "Quid Pro Quo" Phil Roehrs viewed the spillage from Shore.

 

THIS WAS ONE OF OUR GREATEST FEARS AND IT CAME TRUE TODAY -

AND THIS WAS A CITY PROJECT

And the City Boys want to make this a

PERMENANT DREDGE SPOILS TRANSFER FACILITY

Click for Video from WAVY TV 10

 

CLICK TO ENLARGE & See Clear PICTURES

more pics and video to come later

Barges right before they overturned and the hopper barge and muck sank to the bottom.

Phil Roehrs - City engineer - is to the right of the picture.

A day filled with endless paddle boaders, canoes, kayaks and recreational boats passed by this site.

Truly an unbelievable operation in the middle of a busy residential waterway.

Listen to Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen say he wants to create an industrial operation (click) in the middle of a residential area.

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VIDEO OF THE MUCK THAT WAS DUMPED IN LONG CREEK BEING HAULED TO ANOTHER BARGE,

THEN IT HAD TO BE OFFLOADED AGAIN CLICK HERE

The hopper barge, filled with muck is laying on the bottom of the creek.

 

 

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July 30th

You know the old saying, "it's a small town....."

Word gets around, y'know. Remember how this whole thing started. Just what is going on behind closed doors these days?

Wavy tv10 "quid pro quo Phil" click

 

How many untruths and how much misinformation was stated in public meetings and at Council workshops by the City boys and letters from our representative downplaying the destruction of dredge spoils transfer facility? Creating opportunities for some on the backs of a community. Where was our community's representation? Thank goodness for videos, news reports, FOIA documents, radio

and tape recordings so that we have a clear record.

What kind of role playing was this? - The Permit was expired.

What happens when Public Works doesn't tell Council the truth? (click) the Permit was expired.

 

July 22nd

Ah, yes, the pursuit of a

Dredge Spoils Transfer Facility is still going on

behind the scenes just like we expected.

This is clearly being pursued to benefit or give an opportunity to a few

at the detriment to an entire community. To completely override our zoning, the Comprehensive Plan and the Shore Drive Corridor Overlay District.

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And our Public Works folks are still working hard to drum up business to create a need.

Create a need, then they'll tell Council they must have Maple St.

Wavy tv10 "quid pro quo Phil" click

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Most of the Council Members would not like to show a public vote to make this happen - they have tried every way possible to keep it out of Council's hands - keep their hands clean. The vote to take Maple off the SSD program was just "smoke and mirrors" - that's just a very small part of what Public Works intends for Maple St. But they can't get around zoning issues - without a Council Vote - we need to make sure we have people on Council to represent the people. The recommendations by the Beaches and Waterways Commission is ignored by Public Works - it was just a way to calm the people.

 

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Watchdogs

July 18th

Cape Story by the Sea and Broad Bay Island Civic Leagues had ongoing discussions about the very real possibility of the City boys still pursuing this

area as a sludge transfer facility at their July meetings. Everyone should understand that there are those at the City level who still want to put an industrial site in the middle of residential property - despite the people's opposition.

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The Community Does Not Forget

From July 4th 2011

Cape Story by the Sea Parade

To

July 4th 2012

Our Community does not want Long Creek to

become a Sludge transfer and disposal Site

Stop the Sludge

 

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June 26th

WHO PROTECTS THE PEOPLE?

WHO HONORS OUR ZONING LAWS?

The Maple St. Area is Zoned Residential and

in the Shore Drive Corridor Overlay District

It's not an industrial site

REMEMBER - IT'S ELECTION TIME NOVEMBER 2012 AND 2014

At-large and District Council Members are VOTED in by ALL the Citizens of Virginia Beach - therefore THEY ALL REPRESENT YOU. They can't pass the buck and say - talk to someone else - most of them voted AGAINST electing District Council members by the citizens of their district ONLY.

They wanted to keep the district votes "Citywide."

ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS

REPRESENT YOU!

But, HAVE THEY?

If you wrote a letter to them about the sludge site - ask youself - how many letters of support - or even acknowledgment did you get from the Council Members up for Re-election this November? ................hmmmmmm?

Did they really need a Council - appointed commission to "Study" whether tandem trucks filled with sludge running 9' from people's homes or barges filled with muck running along side people's homes, kayaks and paddleboards was a bad idea - for those receiving no benefit -

no property value increase and

decreased quality of life?

Were the citizens IMPACTED by this proposal thanked by council members up for election for the citizen's efforts to attend meeting after meeting - weekly for months - tirelessly working to protect their homes, their families and their neighborhoods as the Council-appointed B & W Commission was? Citizens missing their children's games, homework, family dinners, other obligations and leaving work early? Were these Citizens recognized for their efforts by any of the Council members up for re-election?

When Public Works or Commission members

chastised the citizens attending these meetings, said or promoted misinformation - not allowing citizens the right to speak -- who was the voice for the Citizens?

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When we told Council members that the land was zoned Residential, against the Shore Drive Overlay District, not on the Comprehensive Plan - a State Law, wasn't a normal occurance at the site before, 9' from people's homes, barges would be backing into people's docks, running along side boaters, kayaks & canoes, that Public Works had told them and the public mistruths, belittled citizens in public - how many councilmen up for re-election did you hear from?

When Council was told that the BZA ruled that a sludge site wasn't an appropriate use in R7.5 zoning - and there were 1500+ on a petition...

how many Council members up for re-election wrote you a letter and

gave you their support?

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Who is up for Re-election in 2012?

Rosemary Wilson - Glenn Davis - Bobby Dyer - Mayor Will Sessoms

Get informed - know who is running this year - lots of new candidates:

FIND OUT WHO WILL REALLY REPRESENT YOU.

"Council" appointed commissions, boards and committees - serve with obvious council member influence --- the people need a voice.

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The attack on the people of Long Creek - by a City trying to create special opportunities for some while devastating an entire community - should never been allowed to happen. How many citizens received letters from our own Councilman - indicating that we had nothing to worry about, nothing's coming, simply setting up the logistics, "renewing" the same permit, appointing a commission with a fresh start, 5 bubble areas (right)......all confusing the issue and quieting the people. Calming the masses. Oh yes, once this site was open - it would be open for the sludge and muck haul business for the benefit of others.

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And who briefs council? What happens when Public Works doesn't tell Council the truth? (click) the Permit was expired.

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What happens when Public Works tells Council that they've "looked and looked" - it's the ONLY Way -

and that's not the truth?

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What happens when Public Works mocks and belittles citizens in public meetings & behind their backs - in a public office - citizens who simply are trying to protect their homes and their families - enforce the codes that are supposed to protect them?

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Why are Public servants allowed to pick and choose winners and losers - override zoning (click to hear Deputy Dave say he wants to create an industrial site)- make deals - at the detriment of other citizens?... Wavy tv10 "quid pro quo" PHIL click -

 

NOVEMBER - VOTE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WILL REPRESENT AND PROTECT YOU!

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June 5th

We're watching - we're keeping our finger on the pulse. Civic leagues, community organizations and individuals still have the sludge site issue as top priority in this area. We know that it's something Public Works still wants to shove down the residents of the Long Creek area.

The BZA ruling Stands

A dredge spoils transfer facility is not allowed on that site according to zoning and the Comprehensive Plan - A State Law. VMRC's approval does NOT supercede this.

It seems like just the other day we were attending meeting after meeting and being told what a great idea hauling sludge through Long Creek by barges, slopped out onto trucks and hauled 9' behind homes was such a great idea so that OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS could increase THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE and REVITALIZE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND INCREASE THEIR PROPERTY VALUES -- all at the detriment, impact and devaluation of ours.....

 

It's hard to believe that our district Councilman didn't put an end to this at the very start - instead of forcing us to use our money, effort and family time to protect our homes and our families. And now, we still don't have any assurances that the City won't try to override zoning and go against the will of the people.


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May 23rd

VMRC said that they couldn't comment on minutes from the March 27th hearing about whether this was a true belief of VMRC or not since the decision has been appealed. From the approved, final minutes from VMRC it states:

".........Approximately one month ago, the Virginia Beach City Council officially resolved that the Maple Street Placement Site would no longer be considered as a potential transfer facility site for

non-governmental dredge projects.

If this goes to Circuit Court, will this untrue statement be allowed to stand?

VMRC has several JPA's (applications) that have not been WITHDRAWN from their office.....right now. "Inactive" is not "withdrawn."

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Who's minding the Store?

Time after time we read minutes and notes from public meetings that mislead, add, and omit what was really said or the true intent. Then at the next meeting - the minutes are rubber stamped - approved. - That's it - then it becomes the "truth."

Where are the watch dogs for the people?

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May 14th

All's Quiet - don't think the City Boys have forgotten about Maple St.

Ironically, the "final draft minutes" from the VMRC hearing from March 27th have a great many mistakes, additions, interpretations, ommissions, etc. that are incorrect or misleading.

Just an example in regard to past use:

"The dredging events only included small sections of Long Creek where shoals existed, and during each event beach-quality sand was offloaded by both hydraulic and mechanical methods at the Maple Street site to be used for future beach nourishment."

Sounds like an every day occurence doesn't it? - When only ONCE during this 10yr permit, for a Day or few days did a barge (1, 2, 3?) pull up to Maple St. and mechanically off-load sand. NO record of any use prior to this permit. NOW, VMRC approved a permit to mechanically dredge and off-load up to 25,000 cubic yards at the Maple St. - well they can't - the BZA ruling says they can't.

If it's against zoning now - it was against zoning rules then.

 

THIS ISN'T TRUE EITHER:

"...As that proposal was heavily protested by local citizens, the City never provided Commission staff with the necessary information requested to complete the application, therefore that application was inactivated. (but we know NEVER WITHDRAWN) Approximately one month ago, the Virginia Beach City Council officially resolved that the Maple Street Placement Site would no longer be considered as a potential transfer facility site for

non-governmental dredge projects.

This is a mis-statement

This RESOLUTION was ONLY for the SSD Program - Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen has a whole lot of other ideas for the site....and Councilman Jim Wood knows it.....

 

The VMRC permit was pushed through like a steam roller.

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We're paying Deputy City Mgr. Dave Hansen how much to stand up before City Council and NOT tell them the truth? (click) the Permit was expired. His salary is part of the new TAX INCREASE City Council approved 8-3 on Tuesday.

 

Councilman Jim Wood

It's Simple-No more double talk

DON'T TURN THE MAPLE ST. SITE INTO A MECHANICAL DREDGE SPOILS TRANSFER FACILITY

It's against Zoning. It's against State Law

Don't change the historic use.

Don't increase the use.

DON'T HARM THE RESIDENTS OF LONG CREEK - NO SPECIAL FAVORS - NO PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS

What does Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen want To Create?...... an industrial operation (click)

We didn't make the laws - they exist

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WE GOT AN EARFUL AT THE SDCC Mtg. May 1st WITH VICE-MAYOR JONES & COUNCILMAN WOOD

VICE-MAYOR JONES SAID THAT EVERY TIME COUNCIL PASSES AN SSD ORDINANCE IT WILL DESIGNATE THE TRANSFER SITE --- JUST LIKE THE OLD DONATION SSD PROGRAM DOES....WELLLLLL, WE CAN'T FIND IT IN THE ORDINANCE....CLICK HERE -y'all see if you can find that "ORDINANCE" that Vice-Mayor Louis Jones is talking about that specifically LIMITS the Sludge TO ONLY GO to the THALIA TRANSFER SITE It says it in the agenda, but not in the ordinance itself. It was brought up by Empsy Munden, CSBTS Prez at the Council meeting in Septmeber (Click to hear Empsy & Councilman Jones at this meeting and at the B & W meeting on September 15th. Phil Roehrs yelled out something like - "The Vice-Mayor is not a liar!" Not really, but just like Phil himself, did they read it? Where's the sludge from Bayville Creek at Church Point going? I couldn't find it on the e-docs before the council hearing - some of those pages were missing. Vice-Mayor Jones said (just has Councilman Wood said on the radio interview last spring) that once an SSD program is approved and the transfer site designated -- then all the people who are getting dumped on can come and object....whew - that'll work really well for the citizens being impacted......especially if they don't even know.

 

When asked if any private people other than the SSD neighborhoods would be bringing their spoils to Maple St., Councilman Wood said he couldn't think of any - maybe a few Bay Island people (well right now a DREDGE MATERIALS TRANSFER FACILITY IS NOT ALLOWED AT THAT SITE -- WHY DO THEY ALWAYS LEAVE THAT PART OUT? IT'S AGAINST ZONING - IT'S AGAINST THE COMPREHENSVIE PLAN).....I guess he needs to ask Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen

what he has in store for us and look again

at the pending application at VMRC.

 

In regard to the neighborhood dredge program, Councilman Jones threw out the TMDL possible credits for the mandatory EPA requirements (that's being challenged legally nationwide - just not in Virginia Beach) -- well, I don't think Lynnhaven River Now and the Chesapeake Bay Foundation has any type of endorsement of whether all that dredging is or isn't beneficial to the waterways........

 

(...and then the one-sided negative talk against the District system for Council and the "gotta have more of your money" speech regarding the budget....sheesh...no mention of the Petition going around to get the question of the District voting system on the November ballot -- no mention of the possible adjustments on the budget that Counclman Moss and DeSteph have presented.

The people have a right to be truly informed to make decisions - not just one opinion...many people weren't happy with their answers after they left.....)

 

 

THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW

WHEN THE LAWMAKERS DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW -

WHO CAN THE CITIZENS TURN TO?

When our Councilman doesn't represent his own District - Where do the people go?

The bottom line is - it's illegal to have a Dredge Materials Transfer Facility at the Maple St. Site.

In order to have one - they have to "change the law" - or "change something" - or "put it on the comprehensive plan" - Council has to VOTE...... and

it go against 1520 citizens who said "Not here."

If you're doing something illegal and you're caught - isn't it still illegal?

Having spoils mechanically offloaded at the site ONE time in 2006 -

doesn't make it legal now.

Why did the City ask VMRC to approve a permit that allows up to 25,000 cubic foot of spoils to be mechanically dredged and off-loaded at Maple St.?

Telling the people mistruths over and over -

doesn't make it true.

And last year, when Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen told the City Council that they could do the operation "tomorrow" - it wasn't the truth!

 

Deputy City Mgr. Dave Hansen didn't tell City Council the Truth (click) the Permit was expired.

 

Phil Roehrs didn't tell the truth to the BAC on March 17, 2011 - we were there. Yep permit was expired. The minutes also state that the City was working with "the neighbor for funding" - that wasn't said at the meeting -- More untruths.

Click for the minutes

 

At the River Shores presentation on April 24, 2012 - Phil Roehrs said they can't do hydraulic because there isn't a place to take it - that's not the truth either- the tapes from the Beaches and Waterways Meetings showed that time after time - saying it over and over to different groups of people doesn't make it so.

 

According to VMRC, the City Attorney's office and Public Works told VMRC that the BZA ruling doesn't affect the permit they just approved for the Long Creek maintenance dredging for up to 25,000 cubic yards of spoils - that's not the truth either. The appeal to their decision is in the works.

 

Councilman Jim Wood's (click) email to the public said they were renewing the old permit --simply doing it for some small shoaling - Maple St. was a depository. Not the truth! Old permit couldn't be renewed and it wasn't simply for some small shoaling. It allows up to 25,000 cubic yards of spoils to be mechanically dredged. He called it a depository. Mayor Sessoms called it a transfer facility the day after the hearing.

 

Listen to what Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen wants to create in a residential community

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SHORE DRIVE COMMUNITY COALITION MEETING

MONDAY APRIL 30TH - 7:30PM -

OCEAN PARK RESCUE SQUAD BLDG. AT E. STRATFORD

COUNCILMAN JIM WOOD & VICE-MAYOR LOUIS JONES ATTENDING

WHY ATTEND? BECAUSE DEPUTY MANAGER DAVE HANSEN STILL WANTS TO TURN MAPLE ST. IN TO A SLUDGE TRANSFER FACILITY!

And Councilman Jim Wood hasn't told Staff to leave us alone! The community doesn't want it.

It's against zoning and it's against the Comprehensive Plan - It's against the will of the people!

WHERE IS OUR REPRESENTATION?

 

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WATCH VIDEO WATCH VIDEO - WHERE'S OUR REPRESENTATION?

Still a chance for Representation and Accountability -for the people of each District to be the ones to only vote for their own District Councilman

It's not dead in the water yet!

Turns out the poeple have been challenged by a Resolution from Councilman Davis and 2nd by Rosemary Wilson. We need a little over 11,000 signatures to get this on the November ballots. Watch this amazing video from last night's council meeting - Click FOR VIDEO here then scroll to Resolution regarding the District referendum

 

Awesome speakers including one from our community that used the dredging issue as an example of the need for true representation from a District Councilman

Councilman JOHN MOSS and Bill Desteph made great comments. Thanks to them for keeping this issue alive.

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City Council meeting Tuesday- April 24th - Well, well, Council, including Jim Wood, stopped all that nonsense about having a District councilman voted in only by their own District. Goodness, then they'd really have to be accountable to the people. It also prohibits any attempt by a community leader or someone interesting in running for a District Council position - who isn't policitcally connected or have big bucks to run a City-wide campaign. Whew! Took care of that. They couldn't even put it on a referendum - the Va Pilot vote says the people want to vote on this idea. I bet the referendum would have shown this, too. Councilman Moss, DeSteph and Diezel were the only ones voting for it.

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ALL THAT SLUDGE AND NO WHERE TO PUT IT

CITY'S TRYING TO DRUM UP BUSINESS - create a need, then they can go back to Council and say - "look all these people want dredging - we need a place to haul their sludge." 4/24th - Just attended the River Shores gathering at the GN Rec Center with quid pro quo Phil Roehrs explaining that SSD program one more time - y'know telling the people that there's no place to put hydraullically dredged spoils - mechanical is the only way. (where's the studies, where's the bids, Phil?) This time they had removed the Maple St. site from the powerpoint, but showed the Broad Bay "bubble" but not the "alternate Long Creek site", he had the Crab Creek site pointed out and the "proposed" Pep Boys site as their possible choices. Later in the evening - a question was asked about the real viability of the Pep Boys site-- well...it isn't looking so good after all. So, just where is all this sludge going? Why, they'll tell Council that Pep Boys won't work, the alternate site business owners don't want that nasty sludge next to them and voila' they'll be back at City Council asking for the Resolution at Maple St. to be rolled back.

Phil Roehrs thought it was a good idea to point out that a "Broad Bay Island Representative was in the room" - "moi" - why - I don't know. It's a public meeting.

His usual tactic and Deputy Dave's is to call out our names and discredit us in a crowd. A quick glance at a map and talking with some of the neighbors, there's a lot of places that the sludge can be transferred thru their own neighborhood without barging it over to someone elses. The people I spoke with seemed more than willing to do just that - take it out of their own area. Phil Roehrs said that if they get enough people they might be able to create a "dredge industry" in the city.....sure, ruin some lives and property values, create opportunites for others.

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HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT OUR COUNCILMAN IS ACCOUNTABLE TO HIS OWN DISTICT?

District Councilman should be elected by their District Only. Three City-wide members would still be elected by the entire City as well as the mayor.

This idea is being proposed for a referendum

AT CITY COUNCIL, Today, TUESDAY, APRIL 24th, 6pm

NOT SURPRISING COUNCILMAN WOOD DOESN'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA - AFTER THE MAPLE ST. FIASCO AND DUMPING ON THE THALIA RESIDENTS

CLICK FOR VIRGINIAN PILOT ARTICLE FROM

COUNCILMAN MOSS AND DESTEPH

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The City's plan is to chip, chip, chip away at our rights, throw out a bone... a Resolution here, a Resolution there, ram thru the VMRC application...... smoke and mirrors, but their INTENT is to create a Dredge Spoils Transfer Facility at Maple St.

IT'S AGAINST THE STATE LAW AND ZONING CODES.

 

WHO TELLS THE TRUTH AT THE CITY?

WHEN THE LAWMAKERS DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW -

WHO CAN THE CITIZENS TURN TO?

Deputy City Mgr. Dave Hansen didn't tell City Council the Truth (click) the Permit was expired.

 

Phil Roehrs didn't tell the truth to the BAC on March 17th - we were there. Yep permit was expired. The minutes also state that the City was working with "the neighbor for funding" - that wasn't said at the meeting -- More untruths. Click to see the minutes

 

Councilman Wood sent out emails - trying to calm the masses before the VMRC hearing, calling Maple St. a "Depository" not a transfer site and"simply a renewal" for the same work (yet,permit expired for over 2 years & NOT allowed to be renewed) for the maintenance dredging of Long Creek (click) NOW, VMRC has approved mechanical dredging and hauling up to 25,000 cubic yards of spoils ... when only 1 time for a day or so, in 2006, for a very, small amount of shoaling were spoils ever barged and hauled thru Maple St. (They can't, though, due to the BZA ruling.) But Councilman Wood led people to believe it was the same permit and it was being renewed. Thanks Councilman Wood for distorting the true impact potential on the community.

Let's see small, emergency shoaling is now carte blanc for up to 25,000 cubic yards per year with no parameters or oversight. Mayor Sessoms called it a transfer facility in an email the day after the VMRC hearing. One hand doesn't know what the other is doing....it's hard to coordinate all the mistruths being doled out to the public.

What was lurking behind curtain # 2 at this same time? City boys knew - click for application in VMRC's drawer.

Is there always a deal?... Wavy tv10 "quid pro quo" with Phil Roehrs (click)

Councilman Jim Wood has NOT objected to creating an industrial transfer site on Long Creek in the middle of a residential community. Listen to what a dredge transfer facility is from Deputy Dave (click)

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Think the City pressures VMRC? Knowing glances and nods during the hearing...just like at the B & W public meeting. Click for Phil Roerhs FOIA doc regarding VMRC's hold on the Maple St. application last year - the application has not been withdrawn - even with the BZA ruling and the RESOLUTION. We know why not. Is this a public servant? Click for Phil Roerhs FOIA doc -this is where your tax $$$ go. Always scheming AGAINST the citizens. Simply a bulkhead? The application says municipal dredge materials transfer facility. This is the type of attitude and aggressive pursuit to develop Maple St. into s dredge materials transfer facility that we're dealing with from City Staff -with the knowledge of our Councilman, Jim wood. Who gives them their orders? By the way, the Board of Zoning Appeals says it's against the City code.

 

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If the government can ignore the law or change the law/zoning codes which damages its citizens - then we have a government out of control in Virginia Beach - there is no respect for its citizens.

Vote in the November 2012 election.

In 2014 Councilman Jim Wood is up for re-election.

You'll need to ask yourself-

what has our Councilman put this Community thru during the past years? With 100's of letters, over 1500 people on a petition - did our Councilman reach out to the communities to protect them from this industrial site - or did he write "calming" letters saying that nothing's coming - don't worry......

Did the Resolution for the Beaches and Waterways Commission allow them to actually do studies and come up with the most environmentally friendly, economical and best solution for all? NO! - It was just smoke and mirrors.

The Resolution to take off the Neighborhood Dredging also appears to be nothing more than a diversion - the REAL intended use by the City is to develop Maple St. as a Transfer Facility. Councilman Wood knows it. Councilman Jim Wood knows that the City is violating State Law & the City's own Zoning Codes.

Tired of fighting for your rights?

We need a Councilman to Represent the Communities of Long Creek

 

We need a ward system in Virginia Beach. Councilman Bill DeSteph and John Moss will be sponsoring a vote to place an advisory referendum question to elect the District Council Members exclusively by the voters within their respective districts. THEN our Councilman would be accountable to his communities.

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FACT

Using Maple St. as a Dredge Materials Transfer Facility is

AGAINST THE Comprehensive Plan -- A STATE LAW (click) and

IS A VIOLATION of the City of Va Beach ZONING CODE

Councilman Jim Wood knows it - the City Attorneysknow it - Doesn't City Manager Jim Spore and Mayor Sessoms know it? In fact, on March 29th, Mayor Sessoms wrote an email that verifies he knows the City is using the site as a transfer facility. It says, "Also, the operation of a transfer facility at

Maple Street to place beach....."

Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen and Phil Roehrs know it's against zoning and the Comprehensive Plan. Who's giving the orders? Trying to turn Maple St. into a Dredge Material Transfer Facility is direct violation of law and codes and against the people of the Long Creek Community.

Our Councilman should be protecting the Community -

not picking winners and losers.

Look at the Letter Councilman Wood sent out - trying to calm the masses before the VMRC hearing calling the site a "depository" - when the City boys were already working on a bigger mechanical dredge application..... guess everyone "forgot" that one was still in the drawer at VMRC along with the Municipal Dredge Materials Transfer Facility that was never withdrawn.

Jim Wood's Resolution was just Smoke and mirrors.

The intent was to give the illusion that Maple St. was off the table.

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A promise was made to this Community in 1987

Fortunately, many people in the community have long memories - it's a shame that our City Government doesn't.

 

The Government is made

to PROTECT the People

Laws and Codes are already in

Place to Protect the People

 

Councilman Jim Wood, please STOP the pursuit to create the Maple St. parcel as a Mechanical Dredge Spoils Transfer Facility and Long Creek from becoming an industrial haul route for barges.

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City Engineer & Deputy City Manager ignore Council's Resolution

Apirl 9th - Why is Phil Roehrs and Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen still promoting Maple St. for the Neighbohood Dredge Program on Thoroughgood Powerpoint on March 14th? Click for Powerpoint

What happened to City Council's Resolution from Feb. 28th taking it OFF consideration for the

Neighborhood dredge program?

It was passed by a Council Vote - at a Council meeting.

This is directly against the Resolution. Guess they're trying to drum up business. Why isn't Thoroughgood taking it thru their own streets?

And those Laskin Rd. sites are still on there too - we know

that's not happening! Jim Spore's Gateway & gazebo.

And on their March 13th Powerpoint - there's still a "bubble" for Long Creek.

Oh yes, these two have Bigger Plans for the Maple St. parcel...

and who gives them their orders?

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We didn't make the laws - they exist

Aug. 7th - People buy responsibly in an area - knowing the history, the Zoning, the Comprehensive Plan - the way of life. Yet, we have a City government -"staff" - pursuing the creation of an industrial sludge transfer facility in the middle of a residential community -- against promises made in 1987, against zoning, the history of the area, the Comprehensive Plan, the Shore Drive Overlay District and the will of the people. While we're watching one hand, City Staff is scheming with the other. Oh sure, Council passes a Resolution - cheers are heard - but what's it really mean? It gave the community a false sense of security. Next, pass a "maintenance" application with NO parameters and no protections & City Staff says, we know we've asked for a great deal more than we need.....but just in case...... staff wants to leave the "options" open -- Protections are already in place - we need our Councilman to put a stop to this! Staff has no right to change our community into a industrial sludge haul route and transfer facility. This operation is so horrible that those benefiting don't even want to endure the impact..even for a temporay period. What does Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen want To Create?...... an industrial operation (click)

We didn't make the laws - they exist

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April 3rd - Ah yes, what does our City Staff have in store for the communities of Long Creek at the Maple St. site?

We now know what's behind curtain #2 (click.)

But there are more curtains..

& Don't forget curtain #1

 

Staff is STILL dying to turn the Maple St. site into a dredge spoils transfer facility!

Exactly what we've said all along.

 

Don't forget Deputy City Mgr. Dave Hansen hasn't been telling the truth to City Council for a long time - the permit had been expired for over a year when he said this to council (click here)

This is how council gets their information. The entire SSD neighborhood dredge program was pushed through the same way. No studies, no facts, just Phil Roehrs and Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen telling Council and the public that

their way was the only way. It's all on tape & FOIA docs.

Time after time we proved they were wrong.

 

Just what did that Council Resolution protect the Citizens from - and what didn't it?

Smoke and mirrors....

The neighborhood dredge program was just a diversion for these guys...

they've had bigger plans all along....

Stay tuned! Check back.

The BZA Ruling Stands

This is a violation of the Comprehensive Plan - A State Law (click)

We didn't make the laws - they exist

What is City "staff's" plan? Who are they working with?

It's amazing that people who need to dredge their own muck aren't willing to endure the temporary impact on their own property - they know how bad it is - yet they are willing to open up and condemn Long Creek & it's residents - and change zoning and a residential waterway into a sludge and barge haul route -forever.....we're back to the same thing we started with in November 2010.

With the help of the City Attorney, Kay Wilson and Phil Roehrs, City engineer, they were able to convince VMRC that a "facility wasn't a facility" and that the intent of Maple St. permit #11-1830 was to offload spoils at Maple St. to do maintenance work for some simple shoaling cleanup on Long Creek. Don't worry - that's all that's planned for the site. Yet no words exist limited to this. Our warnings of setting a precedent and the BZA ruling went unheard. Phil Roehrs

( Wavy tv10 "quid pro quo Phil" click) portrayed the historical use of the simple need for navigational dredging - and he portrayed the site as historically being used to offload spoils mechanically or hydraulically - like it was a common occurence. All previously modifications adding small amounts of mechanical were without public input. Yet there was never a need for the 25,000 cubic yards they asked for. The commission ignored the attempts by the public to show that only ONCE -(with no citizen knowledge) had spoils been mechanically off-loaded at the site for small shoaling in an emergency situtation with oversight by the DEQ. Where are the DEQ rules now? They were shoved under the carpet - don't exist. I was told that DEQ signed off because it was the same activity that has historically been done at the site -they "knew the affects" - really? I asked for the rules before and during the hearing - and still they pushed on - yet allowing up to 25,000 cubic yards to be mechanically off-loaded at the Maple St. site - something never done before.

USACE comments weren't even back yet.

What was sitting in VMRC's file folder? An application to barge, transfer, and haul muck from a private owner THRU AND ON CITY PROPERTY -

- that's the barn door. The City wanted this pushed thru fast.

And now we know that Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen and Staff have great plans to turn Maple St. into a dredge spoils transfer site -

To heck with established communities protection in residential zoning & from the Comprehensive Plan - and the real historical intent of the site from 1987 -

the promises made to the people.

Once it's open - it's open -

Just what we've always said -

What does Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen want To Create?...... an industrial operation (click)

March 15, 2011 - Does City Staff tell the truth? Click to Listen to Deputy City Mgr. Dave Hansen tell Council that the Maple St. Site was permitted and ready to go when the permit had been expired for over a year.....

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IS THE CITY ABOVE THE LAW?

 

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and

quacks like a duck - it is a duck!

HEY THERE - USING THE MAPLE ST. SITE AS A DREDGE TRANSFER FACILITY IS NOT ALLOWED IN R7.5 ZONING SAYS THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS

AND IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE COMPREHENSVIE PLAN - A STATE LAW

THE VMRC Approval DOES NOT TRUMP THE BZA RULING

THE BZA STANDS - FACT -

& THE COMP PLAN IS A STATE LAW - FACT

"IT IS WHAT IT IS" - We didn't make the laws - they exist

* Let's see, Councilman Jim Wood said the site was a depository

"The so-called Maple Street site is not being used as a dredge material transfer station. Rather it is being used as dredge material depository....."

Councilman Wood should be representing the people -

not finding ways to get around them.

* City attorney Kay Wilson said it wasn't a transfer facility - ---------

that way the BZA ruling surely doesn't count......does it? Another public servant using tax payers $$$ to go around the will of the people.

* March 27th - VMRC rep testified to the Commission that the City wasn't building a transfer facility..... .......in his opinion......looks like a few nods and "the memo" went to VMRC..."it's not a facility, it's not a facility, it's not a facility" sheesh - just look the word up in the dictionary....

* But, I saw an email today (March 29th) from Mayor Will Sessoms and here's what he says it is... "Also, the operation of a transfer facility at Maple Street to place beach....."

oopps, I guess he didn't get the memo......sssshhhhh.....don't call it a transfer facility....the city just convinced VMRC that it wasn't one.... and slip in a few words about the possibility of some non-beach grade material that will need to be hauled away......that way there won' be any surprises when it happens.

The BZA Ruling Stands

"A municipal dredged materials transfer facility is not allowed

on the Maple St. parcel, privately owned & zoned R7.5"

March 15, 2011 - Does the City tell the truth? Click to Listen to Deputy City Mgr. Dave Hansen tell Council that the permit was active when it had been expired for over a year. Was this rehearsed? Sounds like it, doesn't it?

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Rules are Made for all the People - "well, not all of them"

March 27th - VMRC PUNTED

We asked to carve out the mechanical dredge spoils transfer site language in the application until the City cleaned up their own zoning mess - but VMRC left it in - leaving the "cart before the horse."

 

If you run a stop sign and no one sees you -

are you still breaking the law?

 

We didn't write the zoning laws. The City did. The BZA supported the laws. Zoning protects the people. Litigation was put on the property by the same City attorney that now says it doesn't apply to this permit. Change the meaning of a word, blurr the real issue, mislead the commissioners about the previous application....gov'ment at it's best. Where's the DEQ oversight from the last permit? The Hydraulic pipelin and dewatering diagrams? The Estimate on the # of barges it would take to haul 25,000 cubic yards and the affect on the waterway. DEQ passed the buck, too.

 

Does the City tell the truth? Listen to Deputy City Mgr. Dave Hansen tell Council that the permit was active when it had been expired for over a year.

 

VMRC asking the City attorney, Kay Wilson, if everything is okay, is like asking the Wolf in the chicken coop if the chickens are safe. (from one of the speakers today) You gotta love the nods from Phil Roehrs to certain gov'ment people in the room..wink wink, nod, nod...just like the Beaches & Waterways public meeting.

 

The BZA Ruling Stands - a municipal dredged material transfer facility is not allowed on that parcel.

 

 

Here's the link to the recording - it may be hard to hear

It's clear that the commission as well as Mr. Roehrs concentrated on the method of dredging the channel - instead of the legal ruling and impact from a mechanical dredge spoils transfer site at the Maple St. location. The commission's questions appeared to minimize the impact from the dredging itself instead of the issue raised by the opposition - the legality and the environment a mechanical dredge TRANSFER site has on a community. What shame. It was repeatedly asked if we objected before. The previous permit was approved for hydraulic ONLY - which allowed citizen input. The modifications adding shoaling for specific areas was without Citizen impact - the Citizens didn't even know it was allowed- it only happened once - for a few days in 2006.

 

 

WHERE IS COUNCILMAN WOOD?

WHO IS WATCHING OUT FOR OUR ZONING LAWS?

Citizens were misled by Mr. Wood's letter - that it was the same ol' same ol'. It's not. What's missing is the meat and potatoes of what was really allowed and how it was approved.

 

No one is trying to stop maintenance dredging on Long Creek. The City is more than able to remove the small shoaling legally at this time and offload it at an approved site. "never let a crisis go to waste." In December they could have easily taken care of it in a timely manner. They chose not to.

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VMRC HEARING: TUESDAY MARCH 27TH 9:30AM

CLICK FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION, PERMITS, LETTERS, AGENDA

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THE CITY IS SCHEMING AGAINST THE PEOPLE

Why is the City asking for something that is not allowed in Zoning?

OUR COUNCILMAN, JIM WOOD IS NOT PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY

WHO'S PUSHING THIS BRICK WALL? THE BZA RULING STANDS

IS IT CITY MANAGER JIM SPORE? COUNCILMAN JIM WOOD? KAY WILSON THE CITY ATTORNEY? PHIL ROEHRS IN PUBLIC WORKS OR Deputy City Mgr. DAVE HANSEN?

Who is pushing so hard to get this site approved and why?

The Community is not against dredging - hydraulic or mechanical. They are not against the hydraulic placement at Maple St. - but the mechanical dredge spoils transfer of barges being offloaded is not allowed in Zoning on that parcel.

Why did Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen tell Council on 3/11/11 that a permit was ACTIVE when it had been EXPIRED for over a year? Click

WHO TOLD JIM WOOD THAT THIS USE WAS A DEPOSITORY AND NOT A MECHANICAL DREDGE SPOILS TRANSFER SITE? WHO TOLD HIM THAT IT WAS FOR LIMITED SHOALING? WHAT ABOUT THE 25,000 CUBIC YARDS ALLOWED EACH YEAR? WHERE'S IT COMING FROM? WHO TOLD HIM THAT THE PERMIT WAS THE "SAME OL' SAME OL'"? IT'S NOT!

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March 25th - If so little mechanical dredging is expected or historically necessary - why the scheming by the City to get something pushed thru with so much known citizen opposition? A lawsuit to go against the people - the BZA's own ruling for the people? Why aren't there limits on the application for small shoaling like Councilman Wood's letter indicates mechanical dredging is going to be used for? Why pretend that a facility isn't the same as a transfer site/staging area? Why the play on words trying to slide this in? Who told Jim Wood this? Why aren't there any parameters at all - just all seasons - all hours - In 2006, the City Manager's office said the contractors were working 24/7 -- so much for Phil Roehr's reference to a normal operational contract...5 days a week, daylight hours. Who's leading who? After the BZA ruling, 1520 people on a petition, the B & W Report and the Resolution - isn't it time for the City to do the right thing and stop this attack against the people! Long Creek dredging can happen - but the Maple St. MECHANICAL DREDGE SPOILS TRANSFER site, in the middle of a residential area is against the will of the community. Where's our representation?

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ON MARCH 15, 2011 AT A CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP WAS THE MAPLE ST. SITE A PERMITTED SITE? NO IT WASN'T.

CLICK TO HEAR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER DAVE HANSEN TELL CITY COUNCIL IT WAS.......????????? Click For Jim Wood's Email confirming it had already expired as well as the language in the permit below.

click for all permits and documents and renewals

Click to hear how safe Deputy City Mgr. Hansen thinks barges are on the canal

Click to hear what happens at a mechanical dredge transfer site

History of hydraulic dredging at the site - a promise is a promise

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OPEN IT UP AND THEY WILL COME -

THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF PUBLIC WORKS

SO, THE CITY'S ATTORNEY DOESN'T THINK THE BZA RULING APPLIES - UH - SO IT'S OKAY NOT TO DISCLOSE ON A STATE APPLICATION THAT A PENDING LITIGATION EXISTS

IT IS - IT EXISTS - IT HASN'T BEEN WITHDRAWN- gotta love our City Workers.

The City is intent on creating a Mechanical Dredge Spoils Transfer Site

Under the guise of the Long Creek Maintence application - Public Works and the City Attorney are sitting on pins and needles waiting to push this permit through - without full disclosure of ownership, the BZA ruling, Pending litigation and the failure to have this industrial operation on the Comprehensive Plan - a State Law.

 

WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY'LL PUT ALL THAT DREDGING WHEN CRAB CREEK IS BUSY WITH THE BRIDGE? - The City will piggy-back onto Maple St.'s permit - "a crisis shouldn't go to waste." Never mind that it has gone right on the beach before and at the State Park. Public Works can't wait to dump it here. How'd they get the last changes thru in the old permit? Small modifications with no Public Comment - that's how - for 10 years!

That's why there's some oversight now - 10 years for a permit & then it expires and then the City has to submit a NEW JPA with public input! If the City boys don't have big plans for Maple St. - the application woud be limited now. "Saying" this is for small shoaling areas - little work - doesn't mean a thing when they're pushing for 25,000 cubic yards with no parameters.

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March 21, 2012

STOP THE PRESSES - HOLD EVERYTHING!

The City's right -- in the past 12 years - for a few days in July 2006, mechanical dredge spoils transfer occurred at the Maple St. site....no one saw it on Long Creek -

but we're told it happened under the same permit that EXPIRED FEB. 2010...

That's right - our City gang and our Councilman's recent letter to concerned citizens is basing the NEW application (NOT "Simply a Renewal" as stated in Mr. Letter letter - click) on a permit that expired over two years ago. This is a HUGE difference and times have certainly changed. It's not allowed in residential zoning on that site! Our City government is ignoring the law.

5/22 LETTER OF RESPONSE BY BROAD BY ISLAND RESIDENT TO COUNCILMAN WOOD (CLICK)

Paragraph below shows that permit expired and could not be RENEWED as indicated by Mr. Wood in his letter to citizens.

Why not a renewal after a 10 year permit?- it's obviously a protection for the Citizens.

Whew! Glad we got that out in the open! A few days of mechanical off load in 2006 - what a precedence for use! Did they have all required approvals? from DEQ? Who in the world gives this information to Jim Wood? The City Attorney's office? Public Works? On Sept. 7th, 2011 - the BZA ruled that operation wasn't allowed! Here's what DEQ required when the modification to the permit was added. "small shoals" Doesn't appear to be carte blanc for the whole channel, does it?

Uh, now they want to allow up to 25,000 cubic yards of dredged material to be mechanically transferred at Maple St. per year! Now they'll have a precedence setting permit, won't they! Just what the City Boys want. Who's watching out for the Citizens? Why doesn't the City work with the Citizens instead of against them? Ask our councilman

JIM WOOD to protect the citizens and not promote City Staff's agenda to get something pushed thru that the City's own Council-appointed appeals board ruled was not allowed on that parcel and that the people don't want!

NO PARAMETERS - ALL SEASONS - 7 DAYS A WEEK - 24/7

The permit is expired. BZA says it's not an allowed use.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck - it is a duck.

A mechanical dredge transfer facility .....

is a mechanical dredge transfer site/staging area.

 

 

Is Public Works above the Law?

 

URGENT URGENT URGENT

The City is pulling an End Run - ramming an illegal act thru a State Agency...they're running as fast as they can to get this heard

VMRC IS MOVING the APPLICATION FORWARD

We need some help... (email me click here)

VMRC HEARING - permit #11-1830

Tuesday, MARCH 27th - 9:30am - 2600 Washington Ave. 4th Floor

Newport News - click for agenda

1. The City Attorney's office and the Zoning Department - (the same people who were overruled on Sept. 7th, 2011) - told VMRC that the BZA ruling against a Municipal Dredged Material Transfer Facility is not the same as a Dredge Spoils Transfer Site/staging area - both bringing barges filled with mechanically dredged spoils and off-loaded by crane on the privately owned - residentially zoned parcel. The City wanted to use the site to mechanically offload spoils and now, the city wants to use the site to mechanically offload soils. Create an industrial operation (click) said Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen. Public Works, in a letter from Phil Roehrs once again says that the City "owns" an easement (click) that gives them the right to create a mechanical dredge spoils transfer site. THE BZA SAID THAT THIS mechanical dredge transfer site is NOT ALLOWED.

click for VIMS information from VMRC

ZONING LAWS TAKE PRECENDENCE OVER AN EASEMENT

That's why the City is working so hard to convince VMRC that the BZA ruling doesn't apply!

 

2. According to correspondence on the VIMS site between the City, past permits with VMRC and the USACE - as well as long-time residents - the mechanical transfer of spoils has no record or permit issued at the Maple St. parcel on Long Creek.

click for Letters and Correpondence (MORE HAVE BEEN SENT & MORE INFO to follow)

UH, OH - I stand corrected - for a day or a few days in 2006, the City of Virginia Beach mechanically offloaded sand by barge at Maple St. No official paperwork like there was for offloading some shoaling at Crab Creek - but it happened - we're told. So much for setting a 12 year precendent...

City Council members, the Mayor,

and VMRC have been notified that the site is not legal for this operation and it is a violation of zoning and the State Law.

Did Councilman Jim Wood know?

EMAIL MR. WOOD AND ASK FOR HIS HELP

The People of Virginia Beach should fear a City

that ignores law and zoning protections.

You can find email addresses for All City Council Members Click here

Write VMRC - include the Permit #11-1830, your name and address

JUSTIN.WORRELL@MRC.VIRGINIA.GOV

cc: Tony Watkinson (757) 247-2250 Habitat Management TONY.WATKINSON@MRC.VIRGINIA.GOV

CC: Steve Bowman - Commissioner of VMRC (757) 247-2200 STEVE.BOWMAN@MRC.VIRGINIA.GOV

 

Is Public Works above the Law?

The Board of Zoning Appeals Ruled that a DMTS is NOT Allowable

Citizens can appeal a Zoning Administrator's determination, have the City's own appointed Board of Zoning Appeals overrule the determination and the city simple ignores their authority and proceeds to do whatever they want against the will of the citizens, against zoning, and against the Comprehensive Plan. The people need representation - VOTE in NOVEMBER. Laws are made for others, but not the City.

Would love to know who is holding all the strings?

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck - it is a duck.

A mechanical dredge transfer facility is a mechanical dredge transfer facility.

The City's pulling a Fast one on our Community!

While City Council was signing a Resolution to take Maple St. off consideration for a "Dredge Spoils Transfer Site" for the Neighborhood Dredge Program -- Public Works had already submitted a "NEW" application to VMRC...you guessed it ... to create a "Dredge Spoils Transfer Site" at the same Maple St site on Long Creek. - Slick characters these "public servants" & who told VMRC that the BZA ruling and litigation doesn't apply? Could it be the City Attorney or the Zoning Administrator whose determination was overruled? (Sure glad I have my FOiA docs from a City official's response email about the "need" to appeal the BZA's ruling against a DMTS) yep- the BZA said that a Municipal Dredge Materials Transfer Facility was NOT an allowed use in R7.5 zoning on that privately owned parcel of land. A DMTS is a DMTS is a DMTS...

This is what they wanted to do with JPA #11-0397 >

1520 people said that they didn't want this >

The BZA ruling said that they couldn't do this >

The B & W Report said they shouldn't do this >

This is what the Resolution took off consideration>

HOWEVER.....The NEW JPA #11-1830 wants to do this ^^

The old permit - #0057 said they could ONLY do this

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(.....oops except when a small amount of shoaling was requested to be dredged and with the approval from DEQ approving an offload site they could mechanically offload - done once in 2006 for a day or so - they want to have permission to mechanically dredge and offload up to 25,000 cu yards per year with this application)

Beach Quality Sand from Long Creek should be hydraulically dredged & placed in the City's holding area like this ^^^

This is a residentially zoned area - the Maple St. site is a residentially zoned parcel

* Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen says that this is what they would be creating with a mechanical dredge spoils transfer site.....

an industrial operation Click to hear

 

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Why is Pleasure House Point (click for VP article 3/14/12) a "non-starter" (says PW engineer Phil Roerhs at Feb. BAC meeting) to use a portion for inwater disposal area and the restoration of the salt-marshes and oyster beds and a possible transfer site away from homes and residential areas? B & W report mentions it for a later day -- 80,000 cubic yards from the Western Branch + SSD neighborhoods hauling thru the Lynnhaven waterways - 25,000 cubic yards hauling and off-loading on Long Creek. Just where are those bids for hydraulic dredging & transfer of spoils like the Rudee Inlet and Shadowlawn areas have? Amazing, past City reports talk about less need for transferring sand to holding areas when the ability to pump it to the beaches is available.

Who's making these decisions with OUR tax money?

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March 11th - City wants the option ("just in case") to change the historical use of hydraulic maintenance dredging on Long Creek and hydraulic transfer by pipe into a full mechanical dredge operation and mechanical dredge transfer/staging area at Maple St.on the Residentially zoned, privately owned property that

1. the BZA said was not an allowed use in R7.5 zoning,

2. the Beaches and Waterways Commission said was not an appropriate place to do this type of work 3. City Council said to take it off from consideration and passed a Resolution (VP article),

4. This Site isn't on the Comprehensive Plan - the STATE CODE OF VIRGINIA They're SUPPOSED TO BE! (Click)

Peope have made life decisions on where to live and this type of open-ended and intrustive type of operation is not on the Comprehensive Plan.

15 barges a day per Deputy Dave Hansen? that's 15 going and 15 leaving mixing with a residential community?

15 off-loading.

The City is intent on creating an industrial operation on this property any way they can. There are no parameters...it's all seasons - 24/7. The operational plan that Phil Roerhs spoke of in his letter (click) (work days, daylight hours) was non-existent in the last permit according to letters from the City Manager's office in 2006. They're non-existent with this application. They abused the last permit and it was for hydraulic dredging - just think what these guys would do with barges and pusher boats and cranes - 24/7......Spring, Summer - Fall - all Seasons. Like the people at Crab Creek - who is the master mind behind all this mechanical dredging and tranfer stations? It appears that the whole Lynnhaven Waterway is soon to be one big barge haul route - instead of using the more environmentally and residentially friendly hydraulic method? Isn't that something.

* Deputy City Manager Dave Hansen

says mechanical dredge spoils transfer

is an industrial operation Click to hear

* Deputy Dave says he hopes the barges

don't hit kids in a canoe Click

Deputy Dave Hansen said up to 15 offloading - which is up to 30 trips a day in an 8 hour period idling next to homes on Long Creek at the Maple St. site. Click

 

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March 8th - Ocean Park Civic League Meeting

Click to Read Review of the Meeting on Tidalfish

The Dynamic Duo (hi guys!) was back in action last night. Deputy Dave and Quid Pro Quo Phil were back promoting the Five- you count'em 5 "Virtual" transfer sites -- how's that Laskin Rd. sludge transfer site click working for City Manager Spore? It's never going there.

Ocean Park's wondering the same thing we are- who's making the decisions on all this impactful mechanical dredging? Spending $13 million on Pleasure House Point and it's not being incorporated into this program? "Non-starter" says Phil Roerhs at the BAC meeting... but not discounted & not studied by the Beaches & Waterways Commission....or anyone else. USACE wants $10 Mil from Va Beach to clean up the waterway placing concrete balls creating oyster beds and salt marshes..... but incorporating any beneficial use of the spoils being dredged up. Under the guise of the very controversial subject of TMDLs.... who knows how much money the city guys will be asking the taxpayers for. Thousands of trucks and barges on our roads and waterway. But, Rudee inlet and their small amount of neighborhood dredging

needs gets the less intrusive hydraulic dredging -- don't ya know???

Creating Job Security & opportunity, Property Value increase & Quality of Life increases for some - at the cost to others. "You gotta be in the right club!"

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March 6th

City has a hard time remembering Long Creek Dredging History

The Residents of Long Creek Don't!

....long, long time residents of Long Creek have great memories.

Click for Mr. Roerhs latest letter to VMRC in regard to the Long Creek Maintenance Dredge Application - previous permit 00-0057 didn't permit MECHANICAL TRANSFER of dredged spoils at Maple St. -- hmmmm... it only permitted hydraulic placement by pipe for beach quality sand.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

Hmmmm.....why hasn't the appeal to the Circuit Court not been withdrawn if the Resolution was passed by City Council? Why hasn't the VMRC application for the Municipal Dredged Spoils Transfer Facility been withdrawn....requesting a municipal dredged spoils transfer facility? Hmmmm.....

Why is the City so Intent in turning the Privately owned,

and residentially zoned Maple St. Site into a mechanical dredge spoils transfer facility - an industrial site in the middle of a residential community?

 

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Don't throw a parade yet - put the corks back on your bottles....the Appeal to the Circuit Court is still pending and the City hasn't officially withdrawn the VMRC application.

......hmmmmmmmm - is there anything up the City's sleeves???? Keep your eyes and ears open.....the mess the City boys made by scheming and conniving against the people isn't cleared up yet! Any New Quid Pro Quo deals being Discussed with our Public Works Boys? CLICK TO SEE WAVY TV 10 NEWS CLIP with Phil Roerhs, City engineer - this is where it started in the first place. (city guys read this website, y'know)

 

What's the City boys real intent for the Long Creek maintenance dredging? They won't be happy until they turn Maple St. into an industrial site in the middle of a residential area.(CLICK above PIC to ENLARGE) Where are the parameters? What about the hydraulic dredging? (pic to the left)

How much mechanical are they talking about? Some shoaling areas OR 25,000 cubic yards? Was mechanical transfer & placement at Maple St. like Phil Roerhs used to tell us in public meetings???? Hmmmmm? NO it was not! What new language and new intent does the City have that they're not disclosing to the public that's different from the old permit? How much, how long? Keeping an appeal to the Circuit Court alive - "just in case." ......hmmmmmm.....isn't that something? Deja' vu? Gotta love these City guys - always working in such an "open" manner and in the best interest of the people....Not!

This Site isn't on the Comprehensive Plan - the STATE CODE OF VIRGINIA They're SUPPOSED TO BE! (Click)

 

Remember the Beaches and Waterways language: The Commission recommends that the Long Creek / Maple Street site not be used, now or in the future, as the site for the DMTS on Long Creek. ..........

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RESOLUTION PASSES -

FEB. 28TH - Just one more battle -

The Resolution to REMOVE the Maple Street site as a potential dredge spoils transfer site for the neighborhood dredge program was unanimously approved by City Council tonight.

 

WAVY TV 10 with Broad Bay Island Residents Feb. 29th Click Here to View

 

Virginian Pilot Story - What about the BZA ruling? Why Dredge sites? Who says so? Click here

 

Empsy Munden, President of Cape Story spoke

as a reminder that the following is still left to do: Click to see: scroll to 16:50

1. WITHDRAW the application at VMRC for a Municipal

Dredge Spoils Transfer Facility

Leaving it "inactive" is NOT the same as WITHDRAWING it.

2. WITHDRAW the Appeal to the Circuit Court for the BZA ruling

BZA ruling was specifically for THAT parcel for the creation of a Municipal Dredged Materials Transfer Facility. Shame on the City for keeping a Private Citizen and

our community in a suspended state just "in case."

3. MAKE THE MOTION to rezone the wetlands parcel to P-1 as stated in the agreement in 1987 and allowed the City to do so by The Levines.

The owners agreed to allow the City to Make the motion to have the Property Zoned P-1 as part of the agreement of their rezoning on the other parcels. See the article in the Virginian Pilot showing the intent (below link). If the property was rezoned to P-1, the Proffers still "run with the land." They don't go away. For some City officials to indicate that P-1 is not as strong as the proffers - is untrue - the proffers stay - they're not replaced by the P-1 zoning. Somehow this whole thing slipped thru the cracks in 1987.

1987 City Council Minutes Click Here

Conditions placed on the Parcel to approve rezoning Page 2 Item 4

1987 Levine's Letter to the City of Virginia Beach following Council Meeting Click Here Page 2 Item 1, Also included newspaper clipping from 1988, when Marina was approved by VMRC, and City Council Agenda Request, 1987

1987 Recorded Document with Restrictions Click Here Page 6 Item 6

 

 

Actually, there is no joy in "mudville" tonight - but a feeling that an injustice had been attempted upon our community and our lives. The endless meetings, sleepless nights, the uncertainty of our futures, our homes and neighborhoods. This was wrong from the beginning and it should never have

happened to the citizens.

The government is made to protect its people,

not circumvent the laws to create winners and losers.

 

The only way to make a difference in this City is to VOTE in November. Stay Informed.

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I'LL KEEP THE PETITION ACTIVE .......

CLICK to Sign the Petition -started 4/22nd - over 1520

If two are signing from one household - please sign separately to be counted!


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Barge Path on Long Creek to Marina Shores/Maple Ste. site

IMPACTED WATERWAYS & ROADS below site today click to enlarge pic

 

DON'T SLUDGE ON ME!!

 

 

 

Proposed site

click to enlarge pic

 

 

 

 

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